Episode 166: Creative Flow
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This week on Fable and the Verbivore, we’re sharing a special episode we did on creating and writing in flow.
We open by giving a loose definition of flow through a quote from positive psychologist and “father of flow” Mihaly Csíkszentmihályi. “Flow is being completely involved in an activity for its own sake. The ego falls away. Time flies. Every action, movement, and thought follows inevitably from the previous one, like playing jazz.”
In this episode, we talk about our own experiences with and ideas about writing in and finding creative flow. Things like:
Leaning into and following the things that spark our creative curiosity
Creating space for thought and getting quiet through activities like yoga, taking walks, and showers
Looking at writing as we do cooking, allowing the ingredients to be brought together slowly over time and for the ideas to come to a boil without forcing them
Connecting with our bodies, our intuition and gut, and listening to ourselves - especially paying attention to when something is grinding and when something is flowing
Paying attention to our own rhythms and what we know is ours
Treating experiences as an experiment, looking back at how something went to determine what worked well and what didn’t, and what depleted us and what nourished us
Digging deeper by asking questions of ourselves and our characters/work as we get more honest and vulnerable
Taking off the pressure and shame to allow for desire and passion to return
Without forcing something - showing up, sitting down, and just trying and seeing if something is ready to be written
Reframing anxiety as excitement in our minds, challenging messages that we’ve internalized about what we’re capable of accomplishing
When things aren’t working as we hoped, using a practice that author Sally Thorne uses and setting out to write the worst thing we can is a way to break through the fear or creative block
Following joy and the things that entertain us, without forcing them to serve our ego as writers
Towards the end of this conversation, Fable makes the connection between our writing work and a storyline from a sitcom where a couple take sex off the table to reduce the pressure to perform. We both felt this was a great metaphor, how temporarily removing the option to write can help a sense of play to return and for excitement to write a given idea to build.
We hope you enjoy this conversation. This is one of our favorite episodes that we’ve ever recorded and we’re thrilled to be able to share it with you!
Keep reading, writing, and putting your voice out there!
Into the woods,
Fable & The Verbivore
Notes:
The Verbivore read a quote at the beginning of the episode. Those words are from a co-founder of positive psychologist and the “Father of flow” Mihaly Csíkszentmihályi. Here are those words:
Flow is being completely involved in an activity for its own sake. The ego falls away. Time flies. Every action, movement, and thought follows inevitably from the previous one, like playing jazz. - Mihaly Csíkszentmihályi
The Verbivore references a post that Fable had on her Insta. That post is available here and features the quote:
DON’T BORE THE READER… Remember, you can bore readers in a lot of different ways. It doesn’t necessarily take a dearth of action; too much action can get you the same result. Everything in writing, as in life, requires balance… A good rule of thumb is this one: If you bore yourself with your writing, you will probably bore your readers, as well. When you feel boredom start to set in, step back and reconsider what you are doing. - Terry Brooks Sometimes the Magic Works: Lessons from a Writing Life
We mention that we feel that this episode is a strangely appropriate one to share during NaNoWriMo as it could help with a Post Mortem review of what worked and what didn’t. If you’re unfamiliar with NaNoWriMo, here is some information: https://nanowrimo.org/about-nano#nanowrimo
Here are some questions we talked about for a Post Mortem review of an experience:
What happened? / What worked? / What didn’t? / What depleted me? / What had a significant cost? / What filled or nourished me? / How can I bring more of that in? / How can I reduce the things that depleted me?
The Verbivore mentions re-framing fear as excitement. This is known in the scientific community as anxiety reappraisal, and studies have supported that individual performance in a task improves when we tell ourselves “I am excited” rather than “I am affraid”. The Ted Talk “You Are Contagious” by Vanessa Van Edwards discusses this study starting at timestamp 16:32.
Here are a few articles and videos we referenced for this conversation:
Positive Psychology Article “8 Traits of Flow According to Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi”
Zapier Article “Finding Flow: 5 Steps to Get in the Zone and Be More Productive”
Raiza Sali Article “22 Flow Triggers: The Ultimate Peak Performance Toolkit For Hacking Flow”
YouTube Video “Losing yourself in flow state | Diane Allen | TEDxNaperville”
YouTube Video “How to open up the next level of human performance | Steven Kotler | TEDxABQ”
YouTube Video “Fear or Flow: how to create an optimal experience | Cameron Norsworthy | TEDxUWA”
YouTube Video “Beat anxiety with the most addictive experience on Earth | Steven Kotler | Big Think”
YouTube Video “How to enter ‘flow state’ on command | Steven Kotler for Big Think”
YouTube Video “How to use ‘flow state’ to do the impossible | Steven Kotler for Big Think”
YouTube Video “Lessons from the Screenplay - The Soul of Good Character Design”
Books and Films Mentioned:
Uprooted by Naomi Novik
Angelika Frankenstein Makes Her Match: A Novel by Sally Thorne
Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon
Music from: https://filmmusic.io
‘Friendly day’ by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
Licence: CC BY (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)